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3rd of Jan 2022 Chat log

16:05:01 From Mark Anderson : For Rafael: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Library-Fragile-History-Arthur-Weduwen/dp/1788163427

16:05:39 From Peter Wasilko : Ready Player One

16:05:58 From Mark Anderson : Above ref URL is for “The Library: A Fragile History”

16:09:15 From Peter Wasilko : See https://www.wired.com/story/the-teeny-tiny-scientific-screwup-that-helped-covid-kill/ for an example of why our efforts to facility citation tracking matter.

16:10:56 From Peter Wasilko : *Facilitate

16:12:57 From Peter Wasilko : LaTeX Typeset!

16:17:13 From Peter Wasilko : I’d prefer to use Author as a font end to my blog which I will be transcluding into my website via imba.

16:19:00 From Peter Wasilko : Everyone should use S-Expressions

16:19:53 From Frode Hegland : Thanks for the Wired Peter

16:29:50 From Peter Wasilko : We need Purple Numbers in the text!

16:30:02 From Frode Hegland : Indeed. High res addressing

16:31:25 From Mark Anderson : Interesting.  I often prefer to listen [sic] to a video – making occasional glances at screen for visual elements, e.g. a picture/diagam being shown. I also play with speed control a lot. so listening at x1.5–x2, slowing down for more interesting/harder parts.

16:38:59 From Peter Wasilko : The High Res addressability is the most important element to me, especially if it is mixed media, I want to be able to jump to the right time index in a case like that to just hear the relevant utterance.

16:39:35 From Mark Anderson : “Dances with words”!

16:39:43 From Frode Hegland : LOVE IT!

16:40:11 From Brandel Zachernuk : The ‘vision video’ for the site textio has some good word-dancing:

16:40:53 From Rafael Nepô : It’s a great video!

16:40:56 From Brandel Zachernuk : https://textio.com?wvideo=bnyw8bmp2l – not substantive but a really neat provocation

16:42:43 From Peter Wasilko : BlipSights — Short Insights, inspired by the BlipVert meme from Max Headroom.

16:43:19 From Alan Laidlaw : Lol! Ah Max

16:43:53 From Peter Wasilko : Vs. BlipCites — short bits of Visual Meta with just a VM ID to be looked up automatically!

16:44:00 From Frode Hegland : Esther Dyson connection: https://ziotag.com

16:44:04 From Frode Hegland : Nice Pater

16:44:08 From Frode Hegland : Peter

16:45:40 From Rafael Nepô : Twitch Clips

16:46:24 From Peter Wasilko : Sort of an Electron App version of Augment/NLS?

16:50:47 From Mark Anderson : as in “…we discussed this, so you don’t have to”.

16:51:10 From Mark Anderson : ^^ is response to Alan’s last comments

16:53:17 From Mark Anderson : https://www.gong.io/uk/

16:53:35 From Mark Anderson : https://www.gong.io

16:53:39 From Peter Wasilko : Could we find a grad student to do it gratis in exchange for having access to our brilliance?

16:56:13 From Peter Wasilko : Oh yes TQL – transcript query language

16:56:33 From Frode Hegland : Text Discussions

16:56:44 From Frode Hegland : Future Text Discussions

16:59:47 From Peter Wasilko : Great distinction Brandel, you are thinking like a lawyer!

17:00:54 From Mark Anderson : No text but what we make.

17:02:06 From Peter Wasilko : Great Branding!

17:03:55 From Brandel Zachernuk : This is Rheingold’s chat with Clark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvqMEkNNuR4

17:04:05 From Frode Hegland : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SS06scXgSIOMp_Gmj4tWG_eJKP30kDuAgkP8unpYnuQ/edit?usp=sharing

17:05:36 From Peter Wasilko : From Frederico Tomassetti:   https://click.convertkit-mail.com/p9u8vedz50cqud74kdiq/z2hghnhdggxk9nap/aHR0cHM6Ly90b21hc3NldHRpLm1lL2d1aWRlLW5hdHVyYWwtbGFuZ3VhZ2UtcHJvY2Vzc2luZy8_dXRtX3NvdXJjZT1uZXdzbGV0dGVyJnV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmdXRtX2NhbXBhaWduPW9uYm9hcmRpbmdzZXF1ZW5jZQ==

17:07:16 From Peter Wasilko : From his mailing list: “So far we have always discussed about formal languages.”

17:07:34 From Peter Wasilko : “We have seen typical programming languages: easy to process for a machine, not always so easy for human beings. We have then seen domain specific languages, which are more human friendly. There is another set of languages we did not consider yet: natural languages. The languages that we are using every day to communicate with other humans. Or sometimes with machine, using Siri, Cortana or Amazon Echo.”

17:07:51 From Peter Wasilko : “Natural languages are part of the equation of some advanced systems. They are an easy interface to be used by many persons who are not so much into computers. Also, there is an enormous body of knowledge expressed by means of natural languages. For these reasons it could be interesting to consider what is possible to do with Natural Language Processing (NLP). So we have looked into it and assembled a guide to this subject. You can use to get a clear idea of what is possible to do with NLP nowadays and which techniques permit to do so.”

17:08:12 From Peter Wasilko : “Do you want to recognize similar documents? Identify in which language a document is written? Generate a summary of a piece of text? These are some of the things we discuss in the guide.”

17:08:23 From Peter Wasilko : “Let me know what you think! Anything should we add?”

17:08:51 From Alan Laidlaw : This is like a kitchen

17:18:42 From Peter Wasilko : [{“time-index”: “0:04:34”, “speaker”: “Adam Wren”, “topic”: “interfaces”, “responding-to”:”Mark Anderson”,”at-timestamp”:”0:0:02”}]

17:18:58 From Peter Wasilko : JSON metadata!

17:19:05 From Alan Laidlaw : I LIKE “talking to”

17:21:38 From Brandel Zachernuk : This is the wordle generator, which leverages extracting the transcript: https://twitter.com/zachernuk/status/1454379653519478793

17:22:17 From Mark Anderson : Larger groups and waiting to be called (i.e. hand-up) add jumps into the transcript. So if a speaker is called (in response to a hand up) a likely context jump is imminent. What Perter’s speaking about right now covers this from another perspective.

17:28:05 From Peter Wasilko : [ {“time-stamp”: “0:34:02”,  “digress-to”: “Hamilton”},{“temporal-delta”: “2:02”, “digress-to”:”Revolutionary War Politics”, duration”:”1:00:00”}]

17:29:10 From Frode Hegland : NOT Digression…

17:29:11 From Frode Hegland : :-)

17:30:03 From Alan Laidlaw : PoC of what can be done w text. Would truly love the VR explorations.

17:30:20 From Peter Wasilko : See Figure 2 in:  https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.58.3833&rep=rep1&type=pdf

17:31:56 From Frode Hegland : Yes, that kind of thinking Peter

17:33:55 From Mark Anderson : Sorry Rafael, didn’t mean to talk over you.

17:35:26 From Peter Wasilko : “The Future of Text” : Tooling

17:36:03 From Alan Laidlaw : I got it guys!

17:36:07 From Alan Laidlaw : web3

17:37:07 From Peter Wasilko : I love IPFS!

17:38:29 From Alan Laidlaw : GitHub? That seems like what were talking about

17:43:09 From Adam Wern : The chat can be used for markers.

17:43:16 From Adam Wern : /mark this

17:48:01 From Rafael Nepô : See you all on Friday!

17:48:02 From Rafael Nepô : Gotta go

17:48:23 From Brandel Zachernuk : Oh I also wanted to put this in to the discussion because it related to the ‘degrees of freedom’ talk on Fri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozuUpgxV2ts

17:49:58 From Frode Hegland : Alan yes, let’s try to build it!

17:50:06 From Frode Hegland : Brandel, will watch

17:50:29 From Frode Hegland : Reminds me, on first skim, of an actual video mirror for a high end clothing retailer

17:56:12 From Peter Wasilko : I will be unavailable Friday.

17:56:18 From Brandel Zachernuk : That picture ring is cool Adam! What is it?

17:56:46 From Mark Anderson : One ring to rule them all

17:57:00 From Peter Wasilko : A good start!

17:58:59 From Peter Wasilko : I

17:59:29 From Peter Wasilko : I will see if I can get my 3-D mouse to work with javascript.

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