10:04:44 From Adam W : I really liked the format with short recorded presentations and discussions after. Would be perfect for Themed meetings.
10:05:58 From Mark Anderson : https://quidzi.com
10:06:03 From Frode Hegland : Thanks Mark
10:08:31 From Adam W : One key is having multiple ones on same topic
10:08:52 From Gyuri Lajos : https://toolsforthought.rocks/
10:09:06 From Adam W : Can be One long and several short ones
10:09:34 From Gyuri Lajos : https://lu.ma/toolsforthoughtrocks
10:12:08 From Mark Anderson : What is the Doug piece to which Gyuri referred?
10:16:39 From Mark Anderson : Command Line Interpreter. OK!
10:16:45 From Frode Hegland : Also the project on Doug we did: https://www.invisiblerevolution.net
10:18:20 From Mark Anderson : Ah , yes. now properly bookmarked.
10:19:51 From Mark Anderson : My hand is for reflection on yesterday. So go for Brandel first.
10:20:03 From Mark Anderson : @Frode, an archivist.
10:22:40 From Gyuri Lajos : https://hyp.is/waJkWknrEey7Gje3q3rkNA/medium.com/the-composition/the-origins-of-opera-and-the-future-of-programming-bcdaf8fbe960
10:23:18 From Gyuri Lajos : It is not a conclave but a camerata
10:24:42 From Gyuri Lajos : https://docdrop.org/
10:31:31 From Frode Hegland : Objection to word processing being the most boring! ;-)
10:31:36 From Adam W : Similar: what are the first principles of Text?
10:41:14 From Adam W : All your physical texts are situated in 3d – it’s not that crazy
10:41:32 From Frode Hegland : 3d or 2d sheets in 3d?
10:41:36 From Gyuri Lajos : https://micro.hyperblog.co/2020/06/12/years-ago-morris.html
10:42:15 From Adam W : Mostly sheets, but also texture which is 3d
10:42:25 From Frode Hegland : Good point!
10:45:58 From Mark Anderson : Dumping some reflections here:
10:48:00 From Mark Anderson : David Lebow has moved further than I thought on doing some classification (even if not directly so) of FoT work. This might be useful if extracted into a slimmer set of metadata to use as source data for visualisations of a type Adam has been exploring.
10:49:33 From Mark Anderson : Interesting to hear (Mark Bernstein) reference to `viewspecs’, i.e. *multiple* interchangeable views, i.e. presentation of the same underlying data.
10:50:29 From Gyuri Lajos : https://sprout.place/space/e41b20715c8141b8bbb63713b6121676
10:51:11 From Mark Anderson : All too often our tools settle on a single UI to do all interactions/presentations. I’m unconvinced that is useful. Conversely, more view means more learning for the user but deeper tools need some commitment to learning.
10:52:12 From Gyuri Lajos : Go WebNative
10:52:25 From Gyuri Lajos : Capabilities UI come to you to work on your data
10:52:44 From Gyuri Lajos : Exchangeability
10:53:03 From Brandel Zachernuk : This is the 30-second short of Tabs.do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZedYkS9DHnE&list=PLqhXYFYmZ-VeKUIuttbQWomTQ-oXF6PLf&index=28
11:00:06 From Mark Anderson : For Rafael: “The Catalogue of Shipwrecked Books” by Edward Wilson-Lee.
11:00:57 From Mark Anderson : ^^ context, the building of a large library by Columbus’ son.
11:00:57 From Gyuri Lajos : Except the new profcession of TrailBlazers
11:02:21 From Frode Hegland : Trailblazers yes
11:02:38 From Mark Anderson : @Gyuri. Yes!
11:05:41 From Mark Anderson : Tools for thought are tools for our minds. We perhaps tend to over-assume a commonality as to the degree of similarity in the way our individual minds work with our thoughts.
11:06:04 From Mark Anderson : My last was general (not sent just to Gyuri)
11:06:24 From Frode Hegland : Indeed Mark, that is a challenge
11:09:47 From Gyuri Lajos : https://twitter.com/TrailHub1/status/1455420951588491266
11:15:02 From Frode Hegland To Rafael Nepô(privately) : Just 1 second ok?… on timeline stuff
11:18:24 From Frode Hegland : Explore the atmosphere as well… the adventure… not competitive, environmental…
11:19:18 From Frode Hegland : That’s your article for FOT 3! Do the resarch!
11:20:08 From Gyuri Lajos : That’s why one tool any tool cannot do it for all
11:20:14 From Frode Hegland : indeed
11:20:26 From Frode Hegland : And why META is a bit depressing and scary
11:21:12 From Gyuri Lajos : Intentional Everything
11:21:29 From Gyuri Lajos : make explicit the intent in your focus when you do that you do
11:22:33 From Frode Hegland To Mark Anderson(privately) : You might want to change the colour of your hand since it’s similar to background colour…
11:22:50 From Rafael Nepô : Link please! I’ve heard about that book
11:23:45 From Mark Anderson : IBM’s History Flow http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~fviegas/papers/history_flow.pdf
11:24:04 From Rafael Nepô : Brandel, I recommend a history of reading by Alberto manguel ;)
11:24:55 From Mark Anderson : ^^^ Never taken forward, but pertinent to the cloud docs & timeline as I mentioned when last speaking.
11:25:25 From Frode Hegland : Fair point
11:26:12 From Mark Anderson To Frode Hegland(privately) : Ha, I changed it a tone darker for today. I’m going back to yellow.
11:26:43 From Brandel Zachernuk : Ooo thank you Rafael!
11:27:38 From Gyuri Lajos : James who ?
11:27:53 From Brandel Zachernuk : James Burke
11:28:05 From Gyuri Lajos : Oh yes
11:28:23 From Gyuri Lajos : He is doing a new series I heard
11:34:14 From Rafael Nepô : And Frode, games have always been a sort of VR. We’re immersed in the world. :)
11:34:29 From Frode Hegland : True true
11:34:50 From Frode Hegland : https://www.theonion.com/microsoft-patents-ones-zeroes-1819564663
11:36:20 From Rafael Nepô To Frode Hegland(privately) : I don’t find Meta exciting at all
11:36:30 From Frode Hegland To Rafael Nepô(privately) : Just a big thing company is all
11:40:44 From Adam W To Frode Hegland(privately) : Sitting here with you on the iPad in the sofa feels like AR lite – it’s already here
11:41:04 From Frode Hegland To Adam W(privately) : Good point!
11:43:19 From Adam W To Frode Hegland(privately) : But I’d love to see text chat bubbles floating over your heads
11:43:46 From Gyuri Lajos : It took Palm PDAs to go to mass adoption with the iPhone and the PDA was copellingly userful from the work go for some
11:43:57 From Adam W To Frode Hegland(privately) : Not a separate chat (unless you want the log for later)
11:44:23 From Frode Hegland To Adam W(privately) : Say in public, good points!
11:47:29 From Gyuri Lajos : Exhausted
11:50:18 From Rafael Nepô : I just want keynote to accept .svg files hahahaha
11:55:43 From Gyuri Lajos : dream on
12:02:25 From Gyuri Lajos : https://mindmatters.ai/2021/10/peter-thiel-says-forget-the-hype-big-tech-is-slowing-down/